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  1. MadYeti

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    Hi guys,
    Black box arrived the other day and hooked it up today. I have a homemade machine using cncrouterparts.com Acme lead screws. they are a 1/2-10 5 start screw. Trying to figure out how to set up the mm/steps for the machine. The default settings in the black box is 200mm which has the machine traveling approximately 6 inches or so. When I lower the number closer to traveling an inch, it crawls. Just needing to get this thing up and running. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Shane
     
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  2. MadYeti

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    Newest thing is the blackbox will randomly show "undefined" in all the parameters under the GRBL settings and then the machine will do nothing. I have to shut down the software and reboot the computer to get the old settings back.

    Shane
     
    #662 MadYeti, Jun 14, 2019
  3. Peter Van Der Walt

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    No need to reboot: system tray, right click icon, quit. Start again

    More importantly, if it comes up like that, just hit the Refresh Settings button on the top toolbar

    Also, make sure you have the proper ftdi drivers, good USB cable etc as it shouldnt show that unless you have communications issues
     
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  4. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Find the 'pitch' of your leadscrew (one rotation =??mm)

    Lets say its 10mm for example
    Math is:
    200 steps per rotation, at 1/8 microstep = 1600 step per rotation

    One rotation = 1600 steps per 10mm (pitch) but we need steps per mm. So 1600 / 10 = 160 steps per mm.

    Substitute your own pitch
     
    #664 Peter Van Der Walt, Jun 15, 2019
  5. PatMcClintic

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    Running a surfacing operation now. I noticed it offsets the start and ends of the rows by the diameter of the bit used from the edges of the perimeter. Can it be set so it starts at 0 and ends at the declared end limits? Or possibly do a perimeter cut around the edge before or after the rows start? My VCarve file I use covers the extent of my travel. This widget is leaving roughly 10mm on all edges (I have a 3/4 bottom clearing bit).
     
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    Thank you sir. That took care of things.

    Shane
     
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  7. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Let me check that next week for you! :)
     
    #667 Peter Van Der Walt, Jun 15, 2019
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    Thank you, I appreciate it!
    Something else I wonder, is if we had an option to do the operation by rows like it does now, or if we could pick spiralish squares, if that makes sense. It helps show if tramming is off in either direction. Maybe it's only helpful to me, I don't know.
     
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    After tightening everything, I seem to have my shingling under control. I believe it was my aggressive plunge doing it. When I now go down in .1 mm (.0039 in) it is hardly noticeable. Even at .15 mm increments its ok. I think my 1 inch flat mortis just dug in. Am loving the software, starting to get some output now. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
     
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  10. Peter Van Der Walt

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    The goal is still to keep things super simple for users :) too many options doesnt make thing easier :) sorry
     
    #670 Peter Van Der Walt, Jun 16, 2019
  11. Giarc

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    I use those same lead screws. One rotation is theoretically 12.7 mm.
     
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  12. Peter Van Der Walt

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    v1.0.178 was released earlier today

    It comes with a new 3D Viewer backend thats faster, leaner and can handle massively bigger files than before. VCarve finishing passes? No problem anymore!

    If you find issues related to Gcode parsing/simulator/3d Viewing - please open issues on Git: OpenBuilds/OpenBuilds-CONTROL
     
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    Anybody knows what this means im using cambam 20190617_181433.jpg
     
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  14. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Means your Cambam setup is not using a Grbl compatible Post Processor. Grbl only understands a subset of the Gcode, probably doesnt like G64 and G40.
    G21=millimeter mode
    G90 = absolute coordinates

    Check Cambam docs/forum for Grbl Post Processor info
     
    #674 Peter Van Der Walt, Jun 17, 2019
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    Grbl doesn't support the G64 command so it is having a sulk!

    Here's the list of what it does support: gnea/grbl

    Cheers

    Adam

    My apologies Peter got in there first!
     
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    @Peter Van Der Walt Are the macros and keystroke mappings stored on the computer? So if I swap in a different computer I have to setup everything again?
     
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    I'll add a Backup/Restore button in a couple days.

    For now:

    1. Press F12 to open Devtools on PC where you want to backup buttons
    2. On CONSOLE tab in Devtools, run: localStorage.getItem('macroButtons')
    3. Copy the JSON string outputted (and get it across to the other PCs clipboard (save to text file, copy to that pc, select content, copy on other pc or similar)

    On the PC where you want to import the Backup:
    1. Press F12 to open Devtools
    2. On the CONSOLE tab paste localStorage.setItem('macroButtons', '<Paste JSON String here between the single parenthesis>') and press enter
    3. Run populateMacroButtons();

    Screenshot (note backup and restore ran on same instance... follow instructions for two PCs
    backup and restore.PNG
     
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    Thanks Boss :)
     
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  19. Peter Van Der Walt

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  21. Peter Van Der Walt

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    done! (; i am soooo deep in the CAM code (adding webworkers to speed things up) I just went to the CAM repo on autopilot! Sorry!
     
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  22. Lloyd Downunder

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    gyday guys
    have finally fitted and wired up my new BLACK BOX, plugged in the USB get green light. OK.
    using Openbuilds Controller , shows the COM port. now connect???? OK.
    it now runs the log, when finished says ,"no supported firmware detected. closing port com1." ??
    i was told that GRBL was pre flashed , before i received it. apparently not???
    i plugged in the other BBox (yep 2 of them), both brand new. same answer. ??
    Please explain.
     
    #682 Lloyd Downunder, Jul 3, 2019
  23. David the swarfer

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    it is 'never' com1, drop that list down and find the real com port (-:
     
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    And make sure you have the FTDI drivers installed for it to show up in the list Virtual COM Port Drivers
     
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  25. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Also test with everything but USB unplugged. Just USB nothing else, as wiring mistakes can cause it not to run properly
     
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  26. Lloyd Downunder

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    Thanks David
    will try that. good to know.
    Lloyd
     
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    Thanks Peter
    i do understand that.
    lloyd
     
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    down loaded the port drivers OK.
    using the jog motion i can move the Z axis no prob, now the X/Y shudders /vibrate but dosnt move.
    it did before the BOXs
    tryed the calc , it dosent explain enough, as i have a 20 to 60 cog, belt system ?? what do i use??

    Lloyd.
     
    #688 Lloyd Downunder, Jul 4, 2019
  29. David the swarfer

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    put in an initial value of 100 steps/mm, then correct it with the wizard 3 times.

    doesn't move? adjust the motor current according to the instructions.
     
    #689 David the swarfer, Jul 4, 2019
  30. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Check wiring, loose connections (1 loose wire of the three) causes similar. It's only as good as you wire it :)
     
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