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INTERFACE CNC Touch Controller

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  1. OpenBuilds

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    OpenBuilds published a new build:

    Read more about this build...
     
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    Congrats.

    Can you run OB control on a pc at the same time or is it one or the other?
     
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    It allows passthrough from CONTROL :)

    PC -> Interface -> BlackBox
     
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  5. romamaker

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    Nice. I'm going to give one a shot on my Lead. Maybe keep the laptop a little more dust free now.
     
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  6. romamaker

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    I do hope that one of the "extra functionality from your Interface" that the WiFi can be used for will be to remotely upload a job to Interface. Would be nice to be able to leave the USB stick plugged in, and be able to remotely upload gcode files, rather then having to sneaker net it back and forth.
     
  7. ljvb

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    I like it... but I am disappointed that it is tied to the Blackbox. I think it should have been as close to device/brand independent. This can allow for a larger potential audience because many of the generic pendants on the market just suck.
     
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    It does say it will work with any GRBL 1.1 controller, but you may have to make your own cable. It's just more plug and play compatible with Blackbox.
     
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    Does it allow zeroing of one axis at a time (like Z axis) or just all three XYZ axis? Hard to tell from pics and current documentation. Also I agree with one the previous statements that upload via wifi would be an incredibly useful feature, even if it's down the road ;)
     
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    Allows probing one axis at a time: See docs:interface:usage-probe [OpenBuilds Documentation]
    But not manual individual zeroing at this time.

    Upload is on the future planned features list
     
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    I stand corrected.. thats good.
     
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    Will there be cad/sketchup of the internals.. Or is the Interface closed source...
     
  14. scratch

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    Does anyone know if it will work with very large gcode files? I'm finding most of the senders that I have available choke when you get much past 2 million lines or so.

    EDIT: I'll let you know when mine arrives :)
     
  15. Mark Carew

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    We work with other company's in the creation of some of our products, so we share what we can. There will be a cad/sketchup dimensional model for sizing on your builds.
    EDIT: The CAD model has been added to the Build page as well as the Drawings and Files Tab
     
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  16. Mark Carew

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    I have to say you guys will LOVE having this on your machines! Its been an amazing time throughout the entire development process and props have to go out to everyone on the Team here working so hard to make this idea a reality. During and throughout testing we all agreed here that once you start using it, it just becomes the new natural way of the workflow process. The firmware will continue to develop as we move forward and we look forward to your feedback. We are super excited to get these out to you as soon as possible to help make your OpenBuilds experience the best it can be!
     
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    So.. constructive criticism.. Instead of the OK button.. a jog wheel I think would have worked better than directional buttons, and switch the directional buttons... For future revisions :)
     
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    Just pre-ordered mine....
     
  19. Rob Taylor

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    Well, I guessed right. The name wasn't exactly cryptic though. :p

    Jog wheel gets very tricky converting to usable real-time commands with grbl. It's not like LinuxCNC where you can tie signals together. Buttons are almost certainly part of the passthrough option from CONTROL, too- it replicates a lot of what's on screen, negating the need for keyboard use about 95% of the time.
     
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    Looks awesome. I only wish it were oriented vertically and not horizontally. Is there any worry about the wire coming unplugged?
     
  21. Mark Carew

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    Rob you may have been first to guess right:thumbsup: I will check with the Team tomorrow to find out.:nailbite:
     
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    The connector has a lock on the Interface side
     
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    Dropbox please :) Though I cant imagine I'll run this without control running on a pc.
     
  24. Jack D

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    Love the design of this Mark!. Looks great.
     
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  25. ljvb

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    As the resident IT Security specialist (I am assuming a lot here.. but 20 years in bringing pain to companies that pay me to....). This is a terrible idea.. Anything that connects to the cloud, or external services is just another attack vector. Keep everything local..
     
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  26. Metalguru

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    I have some questions:

    1. Where does the Interface get its power from? The BB 5V output? Or does it need to be plugged into a USB C charger or something? How much current does it draw?
    2. Could one connect this to an Arduino Uno or Nano via the PD0/PD1 port? Does the USB/Serial interface (CH340/FT232) need to be disconnected?
    3. Does the Arduino supply enough current to run it when powered from USB? Or does the Interface power the Arduino?
    4. How does it function through the OB Control interface? Is Control still fully functional?
    5. How do you set the GRBL internal (eeprom) settings using this?
    6. What is the purpose of the TVS module supplied with the unit? Why would one need a Transient Voltage Suppressor on the Black Box? Would this also be required when using an Arduino?

    Not really a question, but the documentation seems pretty minimal and leaves out a lot of important information, IMHO.

    MG
     
  27. Peter Van Der Walt

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    From BlackBox.
    see docs:interface:connect-generic [OpenBuilds Documentation]
    Yes
    Only for BlackBox
     
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  28. Rob Taylor

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    Oh really? That "blue-screen" pic from a few days ago was a pretty good giveaway, I thought. It looks good though, I like the haptic feedback. Nice job!
     
  29. Rhett E

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    I believe it was ingenious of OB to design the Interface in a similar (same?) footprint as the Blackbox. Now our significant others will have no idea we bought something new. I can just mount my Blackbox in a hidden spot and I'm set.

    Wife: Why are you always holding that black box thing now?
    Me: It's just easier this way.
     
  30. Peter Van Der Walt

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    While we definitely support any kind of camouflage to keep spousal relations high, there's actually more to this than coincidence (;

    Not only, is it sized to be as you assumed, the "same" size as a BlackBox...

    upload_2020-12-16_17-10-55.png

    We also took care to line up the mounting holes, and added ventilation holes, so that you can affix it to your BlackBox!

    Full documentation page will be added soon - briefly:

    1) Disassemble the Interface, set aside its bottom cover and 4x 12mm female-female hex spacers, they will not be needed it for the mated assembly
    2) Remove the 4 screws that hold the BlackBox's top cover in place
    3) Replace these with 4x Hex Standoff - M3 (4 Pack) (The 12mm Female x 6mm Male version) (remember to add to Cart if you plan on doing this)
    4) Reassemble the Interface onto these spacers as a reverse of the disassembly.


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