VFD Spindle Control via OpenBuilds BlackBox Controller and Software

Can you post detailed pictures of your wiring (you can do so with your request to the store too - that will be the next question. Something is not done correctly, the 4X and X32 has exactly the same 0-10v stage - so the store is likely to question the wiring before approving a return too.

 

Thanks.

Wiring looks good, will take your word on BlackBox side

Between

and

almost an hour passed, so apologies if you do have to reconfirm, but did you do the measurement setup? I only ask because you only later checked the EEPROM, so not sure if the first check was all encompassing?

And then: Can we please do one more test to try to see whats different?

BlackBox 4X: Send M3S0 > Measure output between GND and 0-10v (multimeter in voltmeter mode)
BlackBox X32 > Send M3S0 > Measure output between GND and 0-10v (multimeter in voltmeter mode)
In both cases, with VFD disconnected

You also mention

Did you test all of them - or just one?

This figure still bothers me the most though. With Min Freq correctly setup, the VFD should NEVER allow <6000RPM - so you you might want to recheck the VFD manual on that too...
196 is effectively "off" when Min Freq is properly configured. What is your VFD's "PD0.11" Set to?



usually set to Spindle recommended minimum (6000 for water cooled, 7200 for Air cooled) divided by 60hz
So for example 7200rpm / 60hz = PD011 of 120

 

That is good to know, the X32 works correctly then.

I was guessing off the manual, so that's not the right parameter yet. I don't have a Huangyuan on hand to help test, but check the manual again. Something on the VFD definitely needs more setting up. Run source, frequency source, minimum (not PD011, something else) still needs work

 

When you get a chance, drop the exact VFD model number in here (or the correct manual if you have a link), just in case I was looking at the wrong manual (there are subtle differences sometimes)

 

Found something here HY SERIES VFD AND BLACKBOX SET-UP OPTIONS also says PD011 should have been the one, but it should be 0 to enable shutdown apparently

 

Looks to describe PD0.11 the same as the one I had one hand. Do check my other post above linking to the resources section

 

Recheck all your VFD parameters

 

Have you tried the Blackbox Documentation? Incorrect wiring could also have caused damage so do the multimeter check and calibration step as outlined in the 0-10v section of the BlackBox Documentation first.

 

Its in docs:blackbox-x32:connect-vfd [OpenBuilds Documentation]

Check that you do get 10v at Max RPM (Using Tool On menu in CONTROL, or M3Sxxxx where xxxx = value of $30) with a multimeter. If not adjust. That's it for the BlackBox side, simple as can be - the 0-10v signal is now available.

We provide the 0-10v signal, whatever 3rd party spindle it has to connect to, it actually not up to us to document - some community members has kindly provided writeups - but the key thing is your Spindle vendor (To provide parameters to match spindle to VFD) and your VFD manual (To provide details on how to set it up to accept a 0-10v signal, how to make it arm/disarm itself (min freq parameter), and how to wire it)

VFDs are troublesome, and hard to setup. If you want to keep it for someday - a RoutER11 CNC Kit is our recommended spindle option. Plug and play.

 

Check out your VFDs manual, and ask the vendor you purchased it from.
your Spindle vendor (To provide parameters to match spindle to VFD) and your VFD manual (To provide details on how to set it up to accept a 0-10v signal, how to make it arm/disarm itself (min freq parameter), and how to wire it) will have the info you need.

 

But did you tell the VFD to ignore the front panel, and use the inputs instead?

 

Did you remember the jumper wire?
Otherwise it might still be a wrong setting somewhere, best to

a) check the BB as documented: docs:blackbox-x32:connect-vfd [OpenBuilds Documentation]
We provide the standard 0-10v signal
b) from there onward its all configured on the VFD, so might be best to ask the vendor you bought it from

 

Nope, the BlackBox is that simple. Here's your 0-10v industry standard signal. 2 wires with an industry standard variable voltage on it Read the docs linked above. Check it with a multimeter. That's where our line of support stops.

EVERYTHING else happens on the VFD. That's where its important to buy from a vendor who can support their end of the setup.