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Blackbox x32 trying to run inventables easel

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  1. Ryan Kesey

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    Is it possible to run Easle on the blackbox x32?

    I'm have trouble getting the blackbox x32 connected to easle. I can connect to candle and openbuilds but can't connect to easle. Do you think it might be my grbl settings or how I'm setting up easle? What machine should I use when setting up a new machine in easle? Here are grbl settings
    [CTRL+X] < GrblHAL 1.1f ['$' or '$HELP' for help]

    S10000 < ok

    $$ < $0=10.0

    $1=255

    $2=0

    $3=5

    $4=0

    $5=0

    $6=0

    $7=0

    $8=0

    $10=15

    $11=0.020

    $12=0.002

    $13=0

    $14=0

    $15=0

    $16=0

    $17=0

    $18=0

    $19=0

    $20=0

    $21=0

    $22=1

    $23=6

    $24=25.0

    $25=750.0

    $26=250

    $27=1.000

    $28=0.100

    $29=0.0

    $30=255.000

    $31=0.000

    $32=0

    $33=5000.0

    $34=0.0

    $35=0.0

    $36=100.0

    $37=0

    $39=1

    $40=0

    $43=1

    $44=4

    $45=3

    $46=0

    $62=0

    $63=2

    $64=0

    $65=0

    $70=7

    $73=1

    $74=

    $75=

    $100=40.054

    $101=40.054

    $102=188.443

    $110=8000.000

    $111=8000.000

    $112=500.000

    $120=500.000

    $121=500.000

    $122=50.000

    $130=790.000

    $131=790.000

    $132=100.000

    $300=Grbl

    $302=192.168.5.1

    $303=192.168.5.1

    $304=255.255.255.0

    $305=23

    $306=80

    $307=81

    $341=0

    $342=30.0

    $343=25.0

    $344=200.0

    $345=100.0

    $370=0

    $384=0

    ok
     
  2. Ryan Kesey

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    I know I could use gcode but I also like how I can control and start project on one software.
     
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    Is it possible to run Easle on the blackbox x32?

    I'm have trouble getting the blackbox x32 connected to easle. I can connect to candle and openbuilds but can't connect to easle. Do you think it might be my grbl settings or how I'm setting up easle? What machine should I use when setting up a new machine in easle? Here are grbl settings
    [CTRL+X] < GrblHAL 1.1f ['$' or '$HELP' for help]

    S10000 < ok

    $$ < $0=10.0

    $1=255

    $2=0

    $3=5

    $4=0

    $5=0

    $6=0

    $7=0

    $8=0

    $10=15

    $11=0.020

    $12=0.002

    $13=0

    $14=0

    $15=0

    $16=0

    $17=0

    $18=0

    $19=0

    $20=0

    $21=0

    $22=1

    $23=6

    $24=25.0

    $25=750.0

    $26=250

    $27=1.000

    $28=0.100

    $29=0.0

    $30=255.000

    $31=0.000

    $32=0

    $33=5000.0

    $34=0.0

    $35=0.0

    $36=100.0

    $37=0

    $39=1

    $40=0

    $43=1

    $44=4

    $45=3

    $46=0

    $62=0

    $63=2

    $64=0

    $65=0

    $70=7

    $73=1

    $74=

    $75=

    $100=40.054

    $101=40.054

    $102=188.443

    $110=8000.000

    $111=8000.000

    $112=500.000

    $120=500.000

    $121=500.000

    $122=50.000

    $130=790.000

    $131=790.000

    $132=100.000

    $300=Grbl

    $302=192.168.5.1

    $303=192.168.5.1

    $304=255.255.255.0

    $305=23

    $306=80

    $307=81

    $341=0

    $342=30.0

    $343=25.0

    $344=200.0

    $345=100.0

    $370=0

    $384=0
     
  4. Ryan Kesey

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    I know I could use gcode but I also like how I can control and start project on one software.
     
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    If easel doesn't allow connection to 3rd party controllers, then gcode export is the only method they provide.
     
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    I dont think easel works with grblHal which is what the X32 controller runs.
     
  7. Ryan Kesey

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    That's incorrect,
    You are incorrect, FoxAlien Masuter Pro works on easle and it is grbl 1.1h. It is also 32bit. I'm thinking openbuilds has their own Fork as you speak of. Easel only work on grbl, not sure where your information is coming from? You don't seem very knowledgeable of competitors.
     
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    I think you might be correct!
    Any way of flashing it to just grbl 1.1h?
     
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    Compile with a compatibility level enabled. In the latest versions plugin code may even change the welcome string...
     
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    please note that @Peter Van Der Walt IS the developer of the X32 and the software is not a fork, the X32 setup is merged into the grblHAL github repo, nothing special, just pin selections.
    However, grblHAL is not GRBL anymore, though there is a compatibility setting you can try. Read all about it on the grblHAL wiki
     
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    How would you do that?
     
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    Thanks for your information. Can you change the compatibility settings?
     
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    Very true, I am going to try. I love my x32 but would love it to work on Easel. Easel just seems so much more user friendly.



    Maybe you could create an software like it?
    All in one software like easel.
     
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    See the Software section on docs.openbuilds.com and also cam.openbuilds.com
     
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    Yeah I've used it but wish it was one.



    Any tutorials for it?
     
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    Inventables replied but not getting to far.. this is their reply. I'd have to use 2 programs to export gcode. Then run it. Wish it would work without doing that.

    Armani Harris (Inventables)

    Mar 15, 2023, 10:16 AM CDT

    Hi Ryan,

    Thanks for reaching out, and I apologize for the trouble. Easel has not been tested with GrblHal. We've spoken with our Development team and they said we aren't able to support GrblHAL as Easel is designed to work with standard GRBL-based CNCs. However, you can add your machine's work area into Easel. You would then export the g-code from Easel and use your current communication/control software to send the g-code to your machine to carve out. That process is outlined here:

    Non-GRBL machine profiles

    Exporting Gcode From Easel
     
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    Correct - thats all they allow.

    Better though, you get to use a proper host like OpenBuilds-CONTROL (powerful tool set) and saving gcode is but one or two extra clicks
     
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    Embrace running two or even three different software packages. Any all-in-one will be very limited in its capabilities.
     
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    I haven't found anything I can't do on Easel that I can do on openbuilds.. on Easel I can control exactly where I want to start and never have to worry about setting 0s on my machine. Much more user friendly. It can even do 3d. Research and use it.
     
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    Email from inventables, can you please encourage them to make it work. Your product will sell better also. Especially to the millennials and gen xs.











    Armani Harris (Inventables)







    Mar 15, 2023, 11:40 AM CDT







    Hi Ryan,



    Currently, we can only support version 1.1 of Grbl or lower, and GrblHal is a separate offshoot of that. If you're running an Openbuilds CNC with a grbl 1.1 controller, it is compatible with both CAD and CAM portions of Easel. Otherwise, you'll still be able to design in Easel and export the g-code for use with a separate CAM software such as Openbuilds' control software.



    The x32 black-box controller is not one that's been tested with Easel.



    I will share your request with our Development Team for their consideration
     
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    Not sure I need grblhal.
    Can I trade my x32 for a controller that is just grbl
     
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    I have. I stand by my statement.
     
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    What limits does it have?
     
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    Modeling.
    Working with big stl files (they even suggest importing them into Fusion 360 to simplify before bringing them info easel)
    Unless something has changed recreantly you dont have much control over the toolpaths.
    4th axis.
    There's others but I'm going to guess that it doesnt pertain to you..

    Its great that it does everything you need it to. I use whatever app is going to get the job done the fastest. A few more mouse clicks to export code wont ever factor into that.

    I'd like to hear how well the X32 in compatibility mode connected to Easel works out for you. I havent tried it yet.
     
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    The point is, you like Easel and that's fine. But you gotta put some time aside and play with Vectric, Fusion and other CAMs too - the more tools in your arsenal the better the projects you are going to be able to make. We are just here trying to prevent you from limiting yourself and the machines capability just to save two clicks

    For example, Manually zeroing / probing is a GOOD thing (full control over job position allows you to work on even more creative projects). Dumbing stuff down sure helps, but Power is key - don't limit yourself or your thinking.
     
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    Ryan did you ever get x32 to connect to easel?
     
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