Welcome to Our Community

Some features disabled for guests. Register Today.

Z Plunging at Start

Discussion in 'General Talk' started by bludwig345, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. bludwig345

    Builder

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    So I've had this happen a couple of times so far. When I start the run, the A axis plunges way down into the part. I quickly stop the program at that point, so I dont know what happens after that, but it is really odd. I've checked the g code, and it's not telling the machine to do that. I have a hypothesis, but I wondering if people here think it's a valid one. I'm using the Mill Right Mega V, and because it's new, I havent hooked up the limit switches yet. Because of this, my machine home is some random place that was randomly selected. Up to this point I've been homing it using a homing XYZ homing block, and I've been just fine without machine home being set. This cut was different. I had to start right at the very top of my z stroke. I still zeroed the work piece and all looked good to start the cut. Is there any validity to the hypothesis that Control thinks that my z axis is out of its machine limit, and it quickly moving the machine down to get into that limit before it starts the cut? Here are the first few lines of my g code in case someone sees something that I dont. I'm hoping that once I get these limit switches installed and "home" the machine, this will all go away.

    (T1 D=0.25 CR=0 - ZMIN=-1.6 - flat end mill)
    G90 G94
    G17
    G20
    G28 G91 Z0
    G90
    (Face1)
    T1
    S17000 M3
    G54
    G0 X5.3878 Y0.6708
    Z0.6
    G1 Z0.2 F40
    Z-0.075
    G18 G3 X5.3628 Z-0.1 I-0.025 K0
    G1 X5.303
    X0.947
    X0.6653
    G17 G2 X0.6653 Y0.9016 I0 J0.1154
    G1 X5.5847
    X5.7655
     
  2. sharmstr

    sharmstr OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Most likely its the G28 move. What software are you using to generate the gcode?
     
  3. bludwig345

    Builder

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fusion 360. From what I understand G28 G91 Z0 tells the machine to go to machine Z0 is that correct?
     
  4. sharmstr

    sharmstr OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Use the OB fusion post here: docs:software:fusion360 [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    It uses G53 instead of G28. G53 is always machine home. G28 is a reference point that can be set (machine home if not set).

    If you dont have limit switches to home, grbl will set your machine home to the spot when you powered up your machine. When you say "my machine home is some random place" its because your spindle isnt in the same spot when you turn on the machine every time. So, make sure your Z is all the way up and your x and y are in the location you want (front left, back right) before starting Control. @David the swarfer has more info here: How to 'Fake the home'
     
    David the swarfer likes this.
  5. bludwig345

    Builder

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the help! Do you think the OB Fusion Post Process will be better for the Mega V as well since I dont have an OB machine?
     
  6. sharmstr

    sharmstr OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    The post is pretty generic and isn't machine specific. Where you may run into issues is with the controller. Some of those have their own way of doing things. What controller?
     
  7. Giarc

    Giarc OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    1,673
    According to their forum, the Mega V uses a forked version of GRBL for their controller:
     
  8. sharmstr

    sharmstr OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Then buyer beware I suppose. But why the questions on the OB forum and not theirs. Made me think that a blackbox was involved....
     
    Giarc and Peter Van Der Walt like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice