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X-axis doesn’t back up from limit switch when homing

Discussion in 'Controller Boards' started by David Kater, Mar 24, 2022.

  1. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Smooth and stutter free?
     
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    Jogging in 1 direction is smooth and stutter free. Diagonals still stutter a lot. But when homing moves diagonally, it all runs smooth! Really weird..
     
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    Lets reconfirm if its a motor or mechanical issue. Disconnect leadscrews, do a diagonal move - check if if the motors run smooth (or not)
     
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    I did loosen the collars, and then the diagonals go quite well! I will attach a video of it
     
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    This is the video. All couplers are loosened from the leadscrews
     

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    Agreed, so there must be a binding along either the lead screws or rails perhaps the machine itself is out of square? These motors are running smooth.
     
  7. David Kater

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    It seems there is some binding in the leadscrew nut-blocks. I had to shim between the bearing blocks and the plate to get it running smoothly, and now I have to shim these blocks too. Quite obvious in hindsight:). The X-axis is all good now, already better
     
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    Unfortunately, the stutter is still there, even after shimming. At really low speeds it runs fine, but as soon as it gets above 1000 mm/minute, it starts to stutter like crazy again
     
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    Grbl setting still default (step timing and the like?)
    Applied a little PTFE (for example WD40 Dry Lube) to the leadscrew?
     
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    I just had this issue on a new Y table I made for my LEAD lathe so I can run it as a normal CNC. It was only one one of the two linear actuators so I figured it was not the acceleration rates. It went away after the application of the PTFE lube.
     
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    It seems there is some binding somewhere in the drive-system, so I think I will try lubricating them first, and if that doesn't help, I will rebuild the leadscrew-part.
     
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    @Peter Van Der Walt , I ordered some new cables, so I can mount the homing switches on the positions GRBL expects them, without having to apply a mask. It seems that the mask caused the stutter, because when homing the machine on stock settings it doesn’t stutter. I will place the X switch on the right-hand side, which is the maximum. Would you recommend the Y switch on the front or the back?
     
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    Back, axis maximas all the way
     
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    Alright, and then the X on the right side if I understand correctly?
     
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    Yes. Wherever the machine goes when you click X+, Y+ or Z+ (+=towards maximum)
     
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    When I pull the switches of the machine, and click them with my hands, homing works! But when I put them on the machine, it doesn’t do the pull-off move, which it does when doing it manually. Any clue on that? Could it be a grounding issue?
     
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    @Peter Van Der Walt : I have been experimenting a lot with different settings, and I think I am on to something. I have checked 'step pulse invert' and that solved the stuttering. Now only the x-axis problem remains. When homing it does not back-up, and when running a g code, it does weird corners. Corners on the x-minus side go smooth, but when they are on the x-plus side, ie right side of the machine, it squares them of. When it is supposed to make a round corner, it just makes a square corner.

    I tried flipping arround the X and the Z axis, and then the problem of not backing up etc. moved to the z-axis. I also measured the stepper motor coils, they measured the same, about 2,3 ohms on both. Could it be that my blackbox has a defect on the X-port, and that it because of that doesnt move the stepper the right way? Is there a way that I can measure the pins? Thanks in advance!
     

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