Welcome to Our Community

Some features disabled for guests. Register Today.

Trouble with Openbuilds Nema-17 steppers vs. Adafruit steppers that work.

Discussion in 'General Talk' started by BRIBECK, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. BRIBECK

    BRIBECK New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    I am very new to stepper motors and machine building. So I completely expect that I am the source of the problem. However, I am running an Arduino Uno and some stepper motor drivers (Motor shield v2.3) from Ada fruit. The Adafruit steppers work fine where as the open build steppers jerk around and mumble with tremors when the program is idle. I have played around with the wire pairs to no avail, always keeping coil pairs together. I am running them with a 12 V 3amp Meanwell power supply. I only have two stepper motors running.

    Both steppers are Nema-17, why would they behave differently?
     
  2. Gary Caruso

    Gary Caruso OpenBuilds Volunteer
    Staff Member Moderator Builder

    Joined:
    May 19, 2016
    Messages:
    1,185
    Likes Received:
    531
    Hi Bribeck, those little adafruit steppers are only 350mA motors, the Openbuild ones are 1800mA (they are bigger).
    You probably need to turn up the current on the drivers to get the coils fully energized, I have no idea how to do this on those boards.
    Cheers
    Gary
     
  3. BRIBECK

    BRIBECK New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    Thanks Gary, that seems obvious now. I assumed that Nema-17 was a standard spec. for power and dimensions of a motor...perhaps just the footprint and/or mounting? I searched and learned that 17 represents 1.7 inches. Makes sense.

    I bought an Acro set up to move a device x,y,z under minimal load. I plan to move X-Y with a joystick. Z with a lever, rocker or two way toggle. User defined motion, no pattern files. That is why I chose Arduino with motor driver shields.

    Do you think that I could run that gantry with 350mA motors?

    If not, I need to upsize my control board and power supply.
     
  4. Gary Caruso

    Gary Caruso OpenBuilds Volunteer
    Staff Member Moderator Builder

    Joined:
    May 19, 2016
    Messages:
    1,185
    Likes Received:
    531
    Isn't there a way to change the current setting with those sheilds?
    I looked at the stepper control page and there is no mention of changing amps it but they say it can do 1.2A which would overheat those little adafruit motors quick.
    1.2A would be plenty to drive the Openbuilds nema17
    There are many options which would be better for $20 each, those shields are made to do many things which you don't need, like driving servos and dc motors.
    Gary
     
  5. BRIBECK

    BRIBECK New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    I just discovered the 350mA stepper is too weak for z axis. What joystick controlled option is available to drive 4 1800mA steppers?
     
  6. Gary Caruso

    Gary Caruso OpenBuilds Volunteer
    Staff Member Moderator Builder

    Joined:
    May 19, 2016
    Messages:
    1,185
    Likes Received:
    531
    If you are using Arduino already just get drivers. Did you already acquire the control program for Arduino and the joystick?
     
  7. Giarc

    Giarc OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,915
    Likes Received:
    1,619
    I use an arduino, 4 DQ542MA drivers and Estlcam with an xbox controller to move jog my machine around. I am not sure if that will work for you but here is an example of what it can do:


    I can also type in commands to travel a certain distance along the x.y. and z axis. It is free to try out for as long as you want.
     
  8. BRIBECK

    BRIBECK New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    Interesting. Thanks guys
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice