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  1. Jimbo498

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    I am using a smoothie board, and the last working version of OBC (openbuilds control) that worked is the 1.0.144 version,
    since then I can connect to the board and after issuing one command be it a Macro or other line command the controller stops responding to OBC. I have tried every version of OBC since .144 and they all have the same response. I am big fan of the software and would love to take advantage of all of the new features.

    Here is the board/firmware info as reported by OBC:
    [ connect ] Detecting Firmware: Method 3 (Smoothieware)

    [18:51:23] [ ] Build version: upstreamedge-b07c971, Build date: Dec 15 2018 22:19:07, MCU: LPC1769, System Clock: 120MHz

    [18:51:25] [ connect ] Firmware Detected: smoothie version upstreamedge-b07c971, Build date: Dec 15 2018 22:19:07, MCU: LPC1769, System Clock: 120MHz on COM3

    Any help is appreciated, meanwhile I will be the guy using .144

    cheers!
     
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    Smoothieware firmware is no longer supported.

    Install Grbl-LPC onto your controller:
    cprezzi/grbl-LPC

    Much faster, leaner, better, comes with real-time jog, proper laser mode and all the other things that make Grbl sooo much better than Smoothieware
     
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    As of v1.0.180 onwards I've clarified the error message:

    Detected an unsupported version: Smoothieware edge-b6a8523e, Build date: Oct 25 2017 19:01:55, MCU: LPC1769, System Clock: 120MHz. This is sadly no longer supported, Smoothieware does not have all the capabilites this software needs. However, there is a solution: Consider installing Grbl-LPC firmware on your controller. It's a Grbl port for LPC176x based boards (Smoothieboards etc). See cprezzi/grbl-LPC
     

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    Thank you for the timely response. I would gladly install a new firmware onto the smoothie board, if you could point me to the file(s) and provide some guidance as to how to use them. I followed the link and those files look much like those installed on a arduino unit.... would I need to flSh the firmware for the smoothie first?
     
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    Installing grbl-LPC - LaserWeb / CNCWeb
     
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    I am reading through this while at work and not in front of my machine, this looks like a setup for a CNC laser??? I am using the smoothie for a CNC router will this make a difference? also I do have plans for attaching a laser to the CNC router down the road, is there anything I should consider when using the firmware listed?

    again thank you for the assistance!
     
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    The docs is from one of my older projects LaserWeb. But you are not running LaserWeb. You run OpenBuildsCONTROL. Just follow the first steps to install Grbl LPC on your board, skip the LW steps, then do the Grbl Settings bits again

    All it is is a port of Grbl firmware to run on that hardware...
    So either replace firmware on the board you already have,
    or order a BlackBox (;

    Either way both will do laser fine, read the Grbl Wiki for any questions you may have. Yes its a lot, but will be worth your time reading all of it :)
    github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki
     
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    Ok got it, thanks for the clarification! Last thing, should I continue to use GRBL as my post processor in Aspire or is there another I should consider?

    Thank you very much!
     
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    Grbl = grbl... regardless of which hardware its on
    There exists forks for many different boards and platforms
     
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    Peter,

    Again many thanks for responding to his thread!

    Cheers
    Jim
     
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    After all of the trouble I have had lately it is unlikely.
     
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    :) understood, just mentioned it to aleviate any fears you might have - if someday you want to sell it, use it for a 3D printer, etc, there is a way back
     
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    Thanks! Have always kept a clean firmware and config file seperately. In case the memory card became unusable, can always revert to that.
     
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    So I tried loading the new firmware..... board does not recognize the firmware file...... where can I get a black box?
     
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    For what its worth, it should.

    Make use of a freshly formatted FAT32 card
    Make sure filename is 'firmware.bin' all lowercase, rename it after downloading

    Install the USB driver onto PC:cprezzi/grbl-LPC
     
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    Will try again with a clean card, will advise. What is the name if the driver file?
     
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    Download the whole repo's zip at the top. Download and extract it. When windows asks for driver point it at the VCOM folder inside, it needs all the files inside.
     
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    Thanks again guys for making this simple! Will try with the smoothie again, fingers crossed.
     
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    My money is on the filename being wrong. As there are multiple board types the filename is smoothie-firmware.bin and as per the instructions on the releases page has to be renamed to firmware.bin
     
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    And I did do all.of that with the file mentioned above.....
     
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    Ok, so I started from scratch:
    I am using a new sd card formatted for fat32.
    I double checked to make sure the firmware.bin file is properly named (all lowercase, no extra spaces etc).
    still the same thing on the smoothieboard.... power light is lit, #1 LED comes on, #2 LED flashes one time and remains off.

    I downloaded the folder as indicated and found the USB driver, however the the firmware files are not in the folder I downloaded, I am still using the file I was linked to above, yes I downloaded the file smoothie-firmware.bin and renamed it to (firmware.bin) and copied it to the SD card.....

    all of the above being said, I am still using the config file I have been using..... is there a different config I should be using??


    Again any help is greatly appreciated!
     
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    Spent a few hours going through the documentation for the black box controller, I am sold and will be purchasing one for my current build. that being said I cannot find anywhere in the forums or the documentation the dimensions for this beautiful well thought out controller package.
     
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    The github readme still says smoothieware. "OpenBuilds CONTROL - Interface Driver for all CNC style machines (Grbl, Smoothieware)"
     
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    Good catch :) though only the technical people see github. Software.openbuilds.com has been cleaned
     
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