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Discussion in 'Control Software' started by Mark Carew, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Randy

    Randy Journeyman
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    If I may, I would like to know why after creating my work in Vcarve_pro and sending it to the OpenBuilds Control Software the placement is way off.
    I do an initial Check Size but my work never centers on the Work Piece, It is not even getting the size of the piece of wood I want to cut right.
    Could you assist please?
    I am using the the same inch or metric rule through out so I am puzzled.

    Thank you,
    Randy
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    1) Is your steps per mm set correctly?
    2) is your origin point in Vectric, the same as where you SetZero'd the origin in reality? (bottom left corner, center, etc)
    3) Did you remember to SetZero?
     
  3. Randy

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    Yes to all.
    Randy
     
  4. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Then it should all work.

    Post some screenshots / photos / vectric project / gcode files to check deeper into
     
  5. Randy

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    So here is what is happening. I am making a house sign. I saved the numbers and the outline cut out as separate files. It is Creating the correct size of each when i run the test but again it is not centering on the work piece.
    I use the center position to create the drawing and then use the lower left datum after I create the files for G code.
    Could you check these Please. I am doing or missing a step I think.
    My board size is X-5-1/4" X y- 10"
     

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  6. Peter Van Der Walt

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    upload_2020-8-19_20-35-45.png

    merged the two files, looks like it all lines up. Job origins were bottom left, with a margin of a little less than half an inch?

    Something in your vcarve setup / stock setup to look at
     
  7. Randy

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    How did you import both Files? I can only do one at a time.
     
  8. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Correct thats how you should do it. What I did was to merge them just to see where the relevative locations are (to see if your issue is gcode/post related (not the case here), or Vectric setup...) Its not how you should run it etc.
     
  9. Randy

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    Oh dear lord I am so confused.
     
  10. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Post your vectric project, screenshots of your stock/job setup

    What I did was just to look for clues what's wrong - and that shows 0,0 off to the bottom left of the sign (not the center)
     
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    Also, do not set XY zero when changing the tool. Only set Z-Zero with the new tool
     
  12. Randy

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    So this is what I get. The oval is correct but not the number placement.

    Capture.PNG Capture2.PNG
     
  13. Randy

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    Ok I will get back with that.
    Thanks
     
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    Here it is.
    Numbers V carve.PNG OVAL Cut Out.PNG Tool Path.PNG
     
  15. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Both are centered around 2.5 inches in from X-zero, and 5 inches in from Y-Zero.
    But your Job Zero (origin) is not in the center.
     
  16. Randy

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    I see, Watching the videos they say to switch to the lower left corner for your Zero Point before saving it to to G-Code. So that is the issue?
     
  17. Peter Van Der Walt

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    As long as you physically set the Origin of the job on the material by jogging/setting zero in the same relative spot on the stock as what you have told Vectric to do things will match up
     
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    ok. thanks.
     
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    upload_2020-8-19_21-40-40.png

    If you set that as bottom left of stock, then you have to jog over to the stock's bottom left and set XY zero there.
    If you set that as cetnter of stock, then you have to jog over to the stock's center and set XY zero there. etc
     
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    As @Peter Van Der Walt has said, but also, reading your messages literally - did you re-calculate the toolpaths with the origin set at front, left, top of the workpiece?
    Alex.
     
  21. Randy

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    Yes I got ya. I will get it figured out.
    Thank you for you time.
     
  22. Randy

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    You Know? I think I am visualizing my machine from the wrong end. I honestly am not sure what is the front or the back of the machine.
    Here is a picture.
    4B7CE42F-2EF1-4293-A27D-2BF2B9723897.jpeg
     
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    You are looking at the front, which is nearest the camera.
    Alex.
     
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    Greetings all,

    Said I'd give 'OB CONTROL SW' a go (coming from CNCJs) but can't get it working..

    Running both the .deb file (after Software package manager installation) or the App image (after passing executable permissions) both result in an OpenBuilds icon appearing the top of my Ubuntu 20.04 OS.
    But when you click on Open User Interface GUI - the following happens >

    upload_2020-8-20_0-38-20.png


    It's just a grey mass.. Any idea whats happening?

    Cheers, Michael
     

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  25. SeanD

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    Have you tried the web interface? I setup an Intel NUC with Debian and had to install it as an AppImage to get everything working (I don’t use Linux normally).

    If you try going to 127.0.0.1:3000 or the machines actual IP address on port 3000 in the browser URL this should show up the control software if it is actually running properly.
     
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  26. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Usually an indication that the WebGL flags arent set right by your Graphics Drivers. Update drivers (Kernel defaults doesnt enable WebGL fully)
     
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    Is there a way to emulate a Blackbox and connect it to the OpenBuild Control software?
     
  28. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Not easily, but grbl/grbl-sim - why would you though?
     
  29. David the swarfer

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    or issue $C in the serial console which puts GRBL into check mode, it will accept and 'run' all code but not actually move the machine.
     
  30. SeanD

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    Trying to interface with OpenBuilds control but the machine I have my Blackbox connected to is in a remote office. Maybe if I issue the $C command I can test some stuff but I really don't want the machine operating when I am a 20 minute drive away and its 10:00pm :) Just thought I would ask, if there wasn't an easy solution I will just save my development for when I can get access during downtime on the machine. Will look into GRBL-Sim and the $C command.. thanks lads. You guys are awesome.
     

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