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OPENBUILDS BLACKBOX VS XPRO V4

Discussion in 'Laser Cutters' started by syl, Feb 22, 2019.

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Should I return the Xpro V4 and get the newly released OPENBUILDS BLACKBOX

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  1. syl

    syl Well-Known
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    Guys,

    I know the OPENBUILDS BLACKBOX was just released but which controller would one choose for their laser engraver?

    I just recently ordered the XPRO 4 and I am have issues with homing the AXIS after I changed my wire routing and it all went to hell.

    So would you guys return the XPRO 4 and get the OPENBUILDS BLACKBOX?
     
  2. Gary Caruso

    Gary Caruso OpenBuilds Team
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    Hi Syl, false triggers are caused from EMI and can usually be eliminated with a small cap in parallel with the input.
    The home switch setup is practically the same between the two systems and neither will work with wiring or noise issues.
    For a laser the XPro is a good choice.

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    Cheers
    Gary
     
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  3. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    In terms of that both controllers run Grbl, and use basically the same wiring... It alone shouldnt be your decision making point. (; on both you'd need to fix the switch's wiring/config instead
     
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    I have a friend that has an Xcarve and uses Easel so I'm kinda used to that program thru him. I'm considering getting a LEAD 1010 with the blackbox controller. Since the Inventibles X controller uses Grbl just like the blackbox could I essentially use Easel with the LEAD 1010 until I get switched over to the openbuilds or Vcarve software?
     
  5. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    I cannot confirm, as we are not using Easel, but you can checkout our CAM and CONTROL solutions on OpenBuilds Software as well (;


    OpenBuilds CONTROL: Machine control interface for Grbl and Smoothieware
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    OpenBuilds CAM: Convert DXF, SVG, Bitmaps/jpg/png, Gerber and Excellon files to GCODE
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  6. Giarc

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    I used Easel a long time ago with my cnc machine, but it seemed too specific for their machine sizes so I used Sketchucam since I could load my machines parameters into it. I ran the Gcode with GRBL Panel. Then I started using Fusion 360 to design things in 3D and using their CAM to make the gcode and again used GRBL Panel for cutting. But I finally settled on just making .dxf and .stl files and using Estlcam (OpenBuilds CAM was not out at the time). I love its probing functions. The Openbuilds CAM looks so user friendly that I plan to use that when I get my laser build done.
     
  7. syl

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    I love the simplicity of Open builds CAM, I just wish it had the option to control z height like laserweb does so I can cut out projects.
     
  8. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    That can be arranged :) - as we have Machine profiles on the Settings tab, I can add a "I have a Z axis" option to still keep it easy for Acro owners (no Z) but if you enable Z show extra fields on the Operation settings. Gimme a couple days and I'll add it for you :)

    (; Wonder if the Easel developers will be this quick to help hehehe

    Issue tracker for this request: Laser Operations: Z Axis stepdown · Issue #42 · OpenBuilds/cam (Will update there once implemented)
     
  9. syl

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    Shoot!!!! That's great to hear the learning curve was non existent on your software.. the others not so much! Thank you for the update!
     
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    @Peter Van Der Walt is there still an expectation of the Z height control for the ACRO within the openbuilds control software?
     
  11. Peter Van Der Walt

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    I do not not have the blackbox, i have the sparks Xprov4 :(
     
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    Will still work. I mean my job has been busy on Blackbox related tasks so havent had time to add the Z stepdown code to CAM yet (;
     
  14. syl

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    I understand! I am saying thank you for all of those new blackbox users that now have a new feature in record time!
     
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    I'm very new to all this. Is there a tutorial for the openbuilds software and how to use both programs?
     
  16. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Check out our Youtube channel

     

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