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Cutting Machine Stop-Positioning System

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  1. emin123

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    Hi guys I am new in this forum. Greeting everyone. We have a cutting machine and I want to build a positioning stopper. I am planning to use V-slot actuator belt driven system. I have never worked with cnc controller so I am thinking buy a delta plc and servo for it. With a hmi screen i hope it will be better. I will run it sometimes with a file that included part length already. So it can go to positions automatically. I want it to print labels too. The working length will be 3500-3700 mm. So as I can understand I need to buy 2 two extrusion and connect them.

    Application examples:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/HuuvSMIpB5U?si=3QDFn6fYKvxWDskP




    Questions
    What can i use in Openbuilds store instead of delta plc and servo?
    Would Openbuilds belts be sufficient for this application? Should I pick 20mm width belts?
     

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  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    I used to work as a test engineer in an automation company. We were using Beckhoff plc. I was testing machines,checking codes and giving feedback to the R&D. We were using plc, driver, pc, power supplies.It was a long time ago I am rusty and I am not familiar with arduino or raspberry pi but i will do my best with your help. I have a plc programmer friend I will invite him to this forum too. Now I am making a part list I hope you can help me.
    (1)BlackBox Motion Control System X32
    (3)Xtension Limit Switch Kit
    (1)24V Meanwell Power Supply Bundle
    (1)Xtension Wire Set - 4 Conductor
    (1)Xtension Wire Set - 3 Conductor
    (1)Raspberry Pi (Or a pc)
    (1)10" Touch Screen compatible with Raspberry Pi

    Can I use a NEMA23 with encoder from a different supplier? I don't want to deal with calibration every time? As I understand I don't need to buy motor driver blackbox works for the same purpose. I checked the project you sent me that NickEng's Saw Stop. I have more budget so i'm more flexible. Even I can buy a servo. My other question is do you think I need an arduino?
     
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    BlackBox does not support Encoders. However there is no "calibration every time" - calibration = correcting for mechanical tolerances - you can set steps per mm theoretically if the parts are good. Either way, once off. Not something you do "every time"

    Do make sure 3rd party motors meet ours' electrical specs. Ours are optimal for BlackBox (voltage and inductance too, not just current rating)


    Yes has 4x Onboard stepper drivers


    Not if you go X32 > CONTROL > Your customized Macro
     
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    Thanks for response Peter. I am glad to be a member of this forum. Could you recommend a servo that suitable for this application? I can go with a stepper just I have never used it.
     
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    Hi everyone. I couldn't find a pulley with 1/4 bore diameter. All of them are 8mm and openbuilds steppers are 1/4". Couplin cant help either. I am looking for a 8mm shaft diameter Stepper that can suit blackbox x32. Can I get some advice?
     
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    We have a couple? 3GT (GT2-3M) Timing Pulley - 20 Tooth and GT2-2M Timing Pulley - 30 Tooth

    If its not our belt, what do you need?


    Match our motor's electrical specs:
    3-6v Coil voltage (Higher will be slower on acceleration)
    1-2mH Inductance (Higher will be slower on top speed)
    Max 3.2A RMS Current / 4A Peak (Higher rated will be lower on torque)
     
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    I saw some commercial machines are using 5mm pitch 30mm width belt for the same application. I decided 5mm pitch 25mm width belt.
     
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    Thanks Peder I will check for a Stepper based your respond
     
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    HTD-5? or 5M-25?
     
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    T5
    https://www.ebay .com/itm/155084733500?itmmeta=01J1B0X4SETNDPFPHHNKT8VCKY&hash=item241bc53c3c:g:lXAAAOSwI3xi17Sh&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4DemarDX3RGEvNtI0vwsmAaWnuN61LoBwlNhAmVxQ2uiy%2BH9FZzQ9ZPBCx4HpIDjjhRHSwecU8unOaLlwL323rFPDyiSXmDe8IXJbjdHjluhJwvHj0zynQSLAXjxtBw7N%2BLVjO2Fx11%2FQplHvCvqqIjBx21e5cjXyuz0cxOaZei8Uez32RyQPssoIskXyCS7LOpZjZIB9%2FjBuRGeJ2cjPxQCn9eTz75%2Fhvk9fItReq3fXfTaua3M%2FyxhJGG5qTtSde8YnPA5F9cQR8On0afZ4Km1MIAL5Revge9Czuo5pf4Z%7Ctkp%3ABFBM7Mz04Ipk

    I guess it is
    5M-25T


    this is the pulley I will use "T5 Pulleys / LS 36 T5 / 32-2 hub 38X6"
     
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    Peter I put everything in a word file. We will proceed to purchase parts next week. I checked this javascript code and I modified. It can work with a part list file. What I wanna know is can I adapt a label printer to this system. It already able to read csv variables. I want to add a part name and length information on a label. It can be a print button so I can press it every time cut finish. Do you think it is possible? Or what kind of help do i need?

     
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    Should be yes. Build the label with a little css and html (created dynamically from the js macro) , use window.Print to print it

    javascript print div - Google Search
     
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