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  1. Axlhoss

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    I feel I've done just about everything.

    -Adjusted eccentrics on all axes to (finger rollable).
    -Adjusted belt tension per video suggestions with zips on the ends to stop the loosening of the belts.
    -Checked Z motor coupler to screw is on the flat spots.
    -Adjusted Z eccentrics to tighten Z on the Y gantry.

    In the video you can see the Y axes stall for a second.
    And the smaller the circle the worse.

    Any help would much appreciated.

    Thanks All,
     

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    Have you checked the drive pulley fixing to the motors? With the motors powered on see if you can move the drive pulley - even a very small movement could cause your problem. The grub screw fixing the pulley to the motor shaft often doesn't get a good grip - use (non-permanent) loctite on the grubscrew thread if necessary. Make sure (you probably already have) that the grub screw is onto the flat of the motor shaft.
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    Checked that, and went threw all the eccentrics again for a smooth roll and it’s got even worse.
    Not sure what’s happening.
     
  5. Axlhoss

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    I created the circle file in 2 different design softwares and both look the same.

    Not sure at this point.

    my gantry measurements are spot on from corner to corner. :banghead:
     

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    Which axis is which in your pic?
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    Not sure I understand. The video says a lot though. You can see the stall in the Y
     
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    On my phone so can't view your vid. Is left/right X or Y?
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    All 3 of them are in the video.
     
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    I redid the eccentrics again on the Y plates and got a lot better shape but still no circle.
     

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  11. JustinTime

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    Axlhoss, what the pictures show is a typical backlash. If you checked all your screws/connections, as suggested above, and you're sure all is fine check for backlash by running the machine one axis at a time. Look for youtube videos for how to do it. Let us know if you find them and if it worked for you.
     
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    I’ll be sure to check ASAP.

    I’m also experiencing a 1/8 inch difference in all of my cuts. I was making boxes and kept finding that I had a 1/8 inch short side on each panel. The box was designed correctly so it must be missing a step somewhere?
     
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    I was also wondering if there was any simple way to access the Y gantry drive pulleys. Just to check the grub screws on each side without having to take the table apart?

    Thanks all for the help.
     
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    That 1/8" could very well be from the backlash. You don't, normally, see the backlash in straight lines just the effect of it.
     
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    Alright here we go...... What I did was remove the belts from the rails, engaged the motors, pulled back and forth on each of the Y gantry belts and sure enough the pulley grub screws were completely loose on the left side and that 1/8" of slop on the right. I was able to reach inside and tighten them but I'll eventually take it apart and loc-tite them in as its an awkward spot to get to.

    Here's the most recent project with all lines actually meeting up. :D

    Thanks for the help everyone.
     

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    Axl, the effect of a loose set screw is...backlash. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
     
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    :thumbsup:
     

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