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Discussion in 'Control Software' started by Mark Carew, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    Are you running our machine profiles (from grbl settings tab) or own Grbl settings

    Go to grbl settings, scroll down to Soft Limits and disable it


    Your post above has it enabled (grbl.txt) but our profiles OpenBuilds/OpenBuilds-CONTROL do not. So you maybe changed it, that's causing issues. Stick to profiles (;
     
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  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Oh and with soft limits fixed, you can use Continuous and Incremental again
     
  3. Stumpy

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    That got the spindle moving! Thanks.
     
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  4. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Great! 00:21 this side, got to be up at 05:30... So i am signing off, good luck.
     
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    Is this where we post odd behaviors? So, Running 2 jobs so far today. Every time it gets to the end, I get an error that says 'can't write to usb' then it disconnects.
     
  6. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Disable USB Selective Suspend on Windows How to Disable USB Selective Suspend
    Or check for EMI (electromagnetic interference) (USB cable with ferrite core, seperate power from USB cables, etc)
     
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    Will do. I'll report back after my next batch of runs.
     
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  8. GeneLV

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    Having some issues with the latest control software (v1.0.185) with the blackbox and since I am pretty new to cnc's I am not sure if it is new with the latest version or if it has been this way. When I hit either stop job button it changes the material zero for x, y and z. This does not happen all the time but more often than not. Another problem when hitting stop and attempting to use an xyz macro causes the z to go in the wrong direction when searching for the touch plate. If I push page up or down they go in the correct direction. If I use the built-in z zero wizard it works and corrects the xyz macro direction.
     
  9. Peter Van Der Walt

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    If you ever want to rule out version as an issue, old versions are always available at github.com/OpenBuilds/OpenBuilds-CONTROL/releases

    However, none of these sounds like 'normal' issues.

    Stop does not affect positioning. Only G10/92/etc commands do. Serial log may have clues. Copy/paste please
    Xyz macro: not officially ours so may just be a typo? Or it may be related to zeroes (all moves are relative to zero so if z zero is set incorrectly or not set by the macro, then z moves inside the macro can look weird. Our wizard sets Z0 temporarily at the start to avoid this)

    So post the gcode your macros use?
     
  10. GeneLV

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    Below is the macro I am using for xyz. The problem does not only happen when using the macro, it happens if I manually set xyz as well. I'll run as test and copy the serial log.

    G38.2 Z-25 F100;
    G92 Z3.11;
    G91 G0 Z3;
    G91 G0 X-35;
    G91 G0 Z-6;
    G38.2 X25 F100;
    G92 X-12.075;
    G91 G0 X-3;
    G91 G0 Z6;
    G91 G0 Y-35;
    G91 G0 X30;
    G91 G0 Z-6;
    G38.2 Y25 F100;
    G92 Y-11.985;
    G91 G0 Y-3;
    G91 G0 Z6
     
  11. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Where is the macro from?
    G92 vs G10 may be the issue
     
  12. GeneLV

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    Thanks for the quick reply Peter.

    I think I found the macro in these forums but I tend to run with a lot of Google tabs open so I'm not 100%. I know I saw the same macro on different sites.

    Do I need to chage all G92's to G10's?

    Also, I am using a spindle with the blackbox so I have to edit my gcode to include a M8 for the relay to start the spindle (S12000M8M3) vs just using S12000M3. I read a post from you that said you were going to make some changes so we don't have to use the relay with the option possibly available via a wizard or setting. Is that in place now?
     
  13. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Not yet but will look at soon as I can

    Re G10 L2 vs G92: a proper understanding of the differences will help. Read the relevant sections of LinuxCNC "G-Code" Quick Reference
     
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    There's couple of issues with your macro. Instead of fixing them, start over using the directions in this link: OpenBuilds CONTROL Software

    I've shared this link with a lot of people and haven't had a single report of any problems with probing macros created this way. All of my probing macros are based off it as well.
     
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  15. Hector Beltran

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    Is there a way for a macro to request user input values? I would like for my macro to request through a dialog window my current tool diameter during a zero plate multi-axis probing. Something similar but simpler to dialog window in the built-in Z probing.
     
  16. Rob Atha

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    Hey mark & Peter

    Ive discovered a problem then using OB Control

    when I run a finishing pass on the design im working on of Holiday presents, Using a 1/32 ball nose bit, 12mm per second feed and standard settings from Aspire 9.5 for everything else, the first 50 lines or so go fine but then the sender and machine crawl to a pace where it takes 20 mins to complete 1 line.

    Rob
     
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    Specs of your PC?
    Post the file?
     
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    Question for the developers. I use a laptop for work with my smaller CNC along with the Blackbox Controller. Is their an option to put the bottom view onto one of the sides? It would be a lot easier than turning my laptop sideways.

    Thank you.
     
  19. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Not at this time. Screenshot how it looks normally? Resolution of the laptop? Is a old one, we test on smallish screens too
     
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    A stupid question (even dumber than the last). When I'm homing the machine, what corner should the router end up in? Right now I would call it the "front right' if you are looking down the y-axis at the router. Also, for the Z-axis is higher from the surface the + or - direction?

    I am obviously new to this, and want to know if I need to flip any of my axes within the software to make everything work correctly.

    Thanks in advance for humoring a noob.
     
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    The homing direction should be wherever you put your limit switches Everyone does it differently, but there's a good number of us who home in the lower left. I prefer this way so that all movements away from home are in a positive direction. But again, its where you installed your limit switches.

    Spindle moves up in a positive direction. Spindle moves down in a negative direction. X moves to the right in a positive direction. X moves to the left in a negative direction. Y moves away from you in a positive direction. Y moves towards you in a negative direction.

    Here are two image that show the axis directions. The shape is different depending on what hand you use but the directions are the same. I learned from the start with my left hand, so I do this when I have to remember which direction is positive or negative.

    [​IMG]


    I've seen others do this with their right hand, but it seems hard for me to make that shape so I never use it. Again, its ultimately the same.


    [​IMG]
     
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    For some reason my son only shows the z axis with his right hand, but only when he is mad at me.
     
  23. Peter Van Der Walt

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    @Giarc just made my morning!!! :D
     
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    Thanks very much for the help. Much appreciated.
     
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  25. Mark Carew

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    CNC for life!
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    C1FC9EFB-5B72-4EDF-B2A6-798760F28A58.png I'm going to ask what I believe is a very simple question but I've used search and can't find an answer. How do you delete a macro?? I have an add button and that's it. No buttons at the bottom or in any menu I could find. Can't right click and you can't select a button without running the macro. Delete key doesn't work either.

    I posted this originally in the wrong thread. Couldn’t move it so I’m reposting here.
     
  27. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Click the Gear (top right) on the button (edit), on the edit window that pops up there is a delete button too.
     
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    I appreciate the quick reply!! I saw that little gear last night and every time I tried to click it, the *&^$%# macro would run. I went out this morning without the laptop hooked to the machine and was able to hit that gear every time. Got everything edited so I'm back to experimenting. Thanks again for the help!!
     
  29. Peter Van Der Walt

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    :) take aim before clicking, the gear changes color when you hover over it to show you are in the right spot.
     
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