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Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by Colin Mccourt, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Colin Mccourt

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    Classic top tip @sharmstr I never thought of that aspect
     
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    :) Thanks, Made it from scraps as i wanted to be able to pull it around my small workshop to attached to hand-held tools when not using the CNC.
     
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    Nice one @Chillimonster, I would like to create something similar and mobile.
    I have already sourced 120ltr screwtop barrels on local Gumtree for a tenner each. 120 ltr will be about the right size for this job as I don't want a very large barrel in the garage, plus emptying anything larger would be a chore.
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    Thanks again guys for your valued input
    Regards
    C
     
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    Has anyone found the need to earth their dust extraction? I was wondering if an aluminium version of the cyclone gadget would create a means of discharging static.
    Alex.
     
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    I’ve not had an issue with my machine / drivers and static (running arduino and separate Dq542ma drivers on the Sphinx) With the dust extractor.

    I used to get issues when running the xpro v3 controller caused by the same extractor so can only put it down to the controller.

    Worst case scenario you can always earth the hose as that is where the static build up will be as it’s plastic
     
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    I have not had an issue either and I have not intentionally earthed mine. But, now you have me thinking I unintentionally have earthed the hose. It hangs from a metal strap that suspends the chassis of my garage door opener from my garage ceiling. The metal strap is screwed to the metal chassis which I know is grounded. Prior to this, when it was just hooked to the vacuum and not suspended from that strap, I remember the hose being very "static-ie." Now it is not.

    The more I read other peoples posts - particularly when they have a problem - the more I really start to believe all my CNC success has been through blind luck. This may be more evidence.
     
  8. Colin Mccourt

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    Not sure about the aluminum version of the cyclone @Alex Chambers (starting to sound like Mr. Dyson here hahahaha) but your post has sure got people thinking including me and I thank you for that. Better to be safe than sorry I think so I'll have to factor that into the build somehow. As I'll be using felxi hose rather than say solid drainage PVC I'm thinking on how to achieve this. Do I hide this internally and drill out at the plastic connectors or do I naturally wrap around the contours on the outside? I like the circle crimp idea for the ends of the copper wire, that said where do I attach my starting crimp and what would be the best place to finish it at taking into consideration that the shop vac and the cyclone will be built into a trolley not too dissimilar to @Chillimonster above..any ideas on this peeps and equally are there any alternative methodologies out there?
    Dust Extraction System Grounding Kit
    Regards
    C
     
  9. GeoffH

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    Hi Colin, dust in my woodworking shop is a problem but I feel that my Router isn't the worst offender. Table saw, Mitre saw, Bandsaws, Planer, Sanding Machines etc. - I have Dust Extractors which help a lot but I've concluded that it's impossible to eliminate at a DIY cost. With regard to the Router, I have a crude guard system Cutting boxes.JPG which largely keeps dust/chips away from lead screws and maybe 90% plus is contained on the bed after machining. You can see that my system is open at the top, so it's far from perfect. After the job has finished, I go in with a brush and bucket, get rid of 95%, followed up by a quick vac. If I want to have a look during the machining, I go to the machine with a face mask. Some of my machining operations last for many hours, so I am reluctant to create more noise (and use more power), when I can clean it up in a few minutes. Geoff
     
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    Simple but effective! :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks, yes very simple and cheap (less is more, sometimes) but I didn't link all images that shows all of the DIY nastiness Shared items 3-14-2019 1 but it works for me:)
     
  12. Colin Mccourt

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    Hi @GeoffH . You links want to take me to Microsoft Cloud I think I don't have nor want an MS account so if poss could you just post them below so as I can take a wee look, there may be a gem amongst them Regards C
     
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    I'm hung up on saving the planet. Can you imagine how much repeated data, most of which is rubbish (eg Facebook), we are storing somewhere? Anyway, the story is that I store my files on Microsoft Cloud, so that there is only 1 copy of it, and however they backup my files, but I understood that the link could enable anyone to view it, not just Microsoft account users. Are you saying that you can't see the files? If so I've been misled as usual,:confused: Geoff
     
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    It's Ok @GeoffH I can see them on the computer I wasn't setup on my phone earlier its all fine now. I will get a closer look in a moment
    More pressing dilemma, IP address playing up again...I've been messing around with the machine all week dummy runs etc, everything working fine...and the moment I draw up a nice little tool and bit holder it decides not to play ball Grrrrrr. #annoyed :banghead:
     
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    Evening All. Last weekend I have installed a more robust dust collection in my garage. I have a dust deputy which was attached to a plastic barrel, the issue I had is my shop vac is quite powerful and when the hose was jammed the barrel collapsed.

    I have just purchased last week a small meal oil drum fro "Big Doug" (UK suppliers of all things storage). This ended up being the perfect solution. I have installed 60mm tubing across the roof and have a couple of valve gates.

    Notes for the technically interested people: You ideally need to keep the tubing as large as possible and only reduce at the last possible moment, keep the bends shallow, no 90 degree bends. HOWEVER!!!! unless you have a massive workshop/man cave you don't need to worry too much, I installed mine following all this guidance and found I had so much suction I needn't have worried.

    Earthing - I'm not sure, there are many kits that don't include it.

    Hope this helps, I'll post some pics of my setup later over the weekend.

    Regards

    Colin.
     
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    Ok, good. Regarding the Duet Wifi, there is a video on Ooznest on how to set the Duet up as an access point . I don't know if that would be a better way fo you? Cheers Geoff
     
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    Too late to do anything this evening @GeoffH but anything is worth a try, so I'll give this a whirl tomorrow evening after work, but first I'll have to regain access to the machine initally, then set it all up as before, go back and set up again as an access point if I'm reading this correctly, I hope it works. many thanks
    Regards C
     
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    Yes if your internet router / wifi transmitter is some distance from the Duet you may not get a reliable connection. Changing the Duet to be an access point will mean that the wifi is local between the Duet and your pc/laptop, and should be much more reliable. You can only have 1 wifi network connected at any time on your pc, so you will need to switch between Duet and your home wifi as needed. Not ideal but worth a go, Geoff
     
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    I will be using this spare laptop for the machine only I have my main laptop for day to day stuff so shouldn't be too much of a problem. I can also remove the SD Card in the Duet pop it into a card reader and edit the Config g file that way without having to change things twice to obtain my GUI
     
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    I have hopefully sorted the WiFi problem for once and for all. (not holding my breath) :confused:
    Back up and running, tonight I set about making a little Storage Board/Organiser for Milling bits, Collets etc. Just a little job but it still took a couple of hours to bang out, partly because I was lazy and didn't want to perform a bit change, so I cut the whole thing with a 3mm end mill.
    (I should have took the bit change route lol) It turned out fairly well in the end but needs a good sanding through the grits, stained and waxed. Again not a bad little project for a complete novice to cut his/her teeth on.

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    After a little rub down with sandpaper, I stained the organiser with a little Colron Americian Walnut wood dye allowed this to dry and coated with a smearing of furniture wax. Looks fine and fit for workshop use. I expect in time as the interest and bit collection grows I'll be needing a much larger affair. There's even room for a little Silverline bit sent to me by fellow forum member @Alex Chambers :thumbsup:
    For now, "Job Done"

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    Quick question... because, I'm sure you're all fed up with me by now :)
    Does anyone know the maximum feed rates for the Makita spindle; in mm/min (installation question)
    As I'm looking to set up G- Wizard speeds and feeds FREE trial to see what gives
    G-Wizard CNC Speeds and Feeds Calculator - CNCCookbook: Be A Better CNC'er

    I'm also looking at ways of keeping dust away from the lead-screws in the left and right "C-Beam " profile and was wondering if this idea would work.
    It quite simply involves attaching some Garage Door Draught Excluder Brush to the profile by means of drop-in "T-Nuts"
    Diall Aluminium & brush Draught excluder, (L)2500mm | DIY at B&Q
    draught excluder.jpg C-Beam Section2.jpg
    Would this be a viable solution in reducing dust around the "Y Axis" Screws.
    Regards
    C
     
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    If it fits in without obstructing the Y gantry it should work - check price at Screwfix - same company as B&Q but sometimes cheaper.
    Alex.
     
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    Hi @Colin Mccourt, I have a bit of the draught extruder you mentioned from experiments with dust shoes - it doesn't fit between the C beam and the gantry plate. Thought I would save you the trouble of finding that out.
    Alex. :(
     
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    Yeah, your right @Alex Chambers, I should have gone down and had a look first:duh:. and now that I have, I don't think it can be done without some kind of bespoke concertina/accordion shroud affair coupled to the outside of the gantry struts but that would be taking things a little too far. Although I'm using dry silicone lube on the screws I just wanted to try and keep as much dust as possible out of the channel, maybe when I get the extraction system and the dust shoe fitted things will improve.
     
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    Hi @Colin Mccourt, watch this space - I am working on a solution.
    Alex. ;)
     
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    Hahaha why did I not guess this @Alex Chambers - you and your "Fantastic Plastic":thumbsup:

    Meanwhile, whilst Alex is away melting some more plastic, I have been working out the tool-paths for this football emblem for my sons Bedroom Wall.
    Size 400mmx500mm (my next project)
    As I don't have "V Carve Software I'll be using 90 degrees V bit (for a chamfered effect) and 6-3 and 2mm Endmills to achieve the overall piece (if it works out)
    The time calculation is lengthy as I struggle to get to grips with speed and feed rates (not overly bothered but would like to learn more about this aspect)
    Here is the prospected project for this week (18mm MDF) for personal use only.

    Leeds Crest TPsml.png
     
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    Hi @Colin Mccourt - see new resource "Vslot rivet clip" - I'll be posting it in the next few minutes.
    Alex.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    V slot rivet clip now in share parts/resources. It slides into the V slot and has a 5mm stud that can be used as a "hot-melt rivet" - push the stud through a hole in eg a thin sheet of plastic and melt the stud to form a rivet.
    Alex.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    You might have to trim the stud a bit @Colin Mccourt and you have to slide them in from the end as they are designed. You could file diagonally opposite corners off so that you could twist them into place. Let me know if you want some and I'll print them and drop them in the post.
    Alex.
     

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