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  1. warth

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    [​IMG] Hello,

    I have a lead 1010 and had it working fine for a while. Now, when I connect openbuild control to the cnc, I do hear that it connected but when I want to home it doesn't move.
    If I tell it to move x axis 10mm z axis moves instead and not normaly.

    THanks for your time.
     
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    Your image doesn't show up. Use the UPLOAD A FILE button below the reply box

    Please also post a Grbl Settings backup
     
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    Here are the files, thanks!
     

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    There seems to be a serious wiring short somewhere (causing the resets and garbled serial messages)

    start with checking Limit switch wiring, as its been in use a while loose terminals, chaffed through insulation, etc. Any non-OpenBuilds electronics in use (like a VFD, or not using our Power Supply?)

    Clean out the inside case of the BlackBox too in case theres any metallic debris (cutting chips) etc in there
     
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    HI,

    Yes I use a VFD but I unpluged it and it does the same thing.
    Not using the openbuild power supply though...
    I also tried unpluging the limit switches from the blackbox, didn't help.
    I will try opening the blackbox to clean it some more as I already have
    done it with an air compressor.
    I'll check the motors wire too.

    Thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes.

    Cheers!
     
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    If its a noisy power supply - that the more likely one at this point - you need good clean power to keep things stable.


    Once is enough - most people forget to do maintenance so usually a pile of chips in there - sometimes people machine aluminum etc
     
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    Hello again

    Today I had everything pluged in exept for the power.

    I connected to my pc via usb with Openbuilds control, it
    found the X4 blackbox.

    I hit the x jogging button and on the openbuild control software,
    both the x and z numbers started to move...

    Does that narrow it down to the blackbox?

    Thanks
     
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    Hello Again,

    I haven't found out what is wrong yet..
    Today when I was turnign on and off the blackbox, trying this and that,
    all 4 leds for the motors went red a few seconds after powering on the
    blackbox. It happen twice today and has happened before.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks
     
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    What power supply are you using?

    Low voltage docs:blackbox-x32:currentadjustment [OpenBuilds Documentation] (4th bullet point under "Faults that trigger the LED" - and the only one that could affect all drivers at once)
     
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    Looks OK, but you'd need to use an oscilloscope to see if it droops on power up when the drivers enable. Being a DIN mount case it might not have a sufficient capacitor bank onboard to deal with the inrush current.
     
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    Ok thanks.
     
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    Seeing as these go for an eye watering pricetag, what's the story behind the story on this?

    I mean, you didn't decide to skip our recommended $69.99 24V Meanwell Power Supply Bundle and then went and bought one for 10x as much - that doesn't add up. So what's the history? Discarded one from work? Surplus "condition unknown" from Ebay? You have undervoltage and EMI issues, both pointing fingers at it.

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    HI,

    I bought the 1010 2nd hand, the power supply came with it...
    Today I tried with a different pc and the openbuild control couldn't find
    the blackbox. Reading the faq I found out I should try to unplug power
    and try again. I did and the blackbox was found...
    A while back, while moving my 1010 which sits on a wheeled frame, the
    power supply fell to a concrete floor from about 25cm.
    It all worked fine until now so I didn't think the power supply was the problem...
    I'll try with another one and let you know.

    Thanks again for the precious advice and your patience !
     
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    Here's to hoping it will be the recommended one :) so we can either resolve or eliminate
     
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    Hello,
    New power supply same problem BUT at my wits end I was looking into the openbuilds control
    grbl settings tab and for some reason I tried and changed the machine profile from lead 1010 to
    workbee 1010.
    Seems to be working fine now, homing ok and I lunched an air milling, ok too.

    Hope this can be of some help for others...

    Hi Peter,

    Update on my troubles. I tried again today with my old power supply, since I figured the power supply
    wasn't the problem. As it turns out it was indeed the problem. I was able to home and jog around but
    when I lunched a job it would't do anything. And I noticed my bluetooth mousse dind't work properly...
    EMI it seems to be with this expensive power supply.
     
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