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Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by Justin Shaner, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. Justin Shaner

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    I was just running a 1-1/2" surfacing bit on my Lead1515 with a feed rate of 80 ipm and DOC of .5 mm.

    I have used these setting already and had no issues. I created my own surfacing program, nothing fancy, so I could run the surface program from my controller without laptop.

    1st time running new program, got to like the 3rd line on the cut and the router seized up. Had to put some effort into getting it to manually spin. Ran the program again, got halfway done and this time the router seized again and the program kept running, just like last time, but I couldn't stop the program on the controller. It's like there was no program actually running.

    When I went to go manually spin the router bit, it was tough but seemed to loosen up. I only have like 6-7 hours on the machine. Last week I cut a 4x4 sheet of plywood at 80 ipm, 6mm DOC and it ran 2 hr with absolutely no issues.

    Can someone help me out please?! Did I get a faulty router and need to get it replaced?
     
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  3. Justin Shaner

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    Went there right after making my post.

    Was hoping maybe another user ran into the same issue and could provide some insight for something I might not be thinking of.

    I got to thinking maybe it was static from my dust collection hose as the router only stops when the dust collection hose is up against the router.
     
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    A 6mm depth of cut is quite a heavy load - much more than I would consider for your typical router.
     
  5. Peter Van Der Walt

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    What size of endmill was used for this cut? Also a surfacing bit?

    How many hours total do you have on the router yet? It might be worth checking the Brushes (spares are included) as heavy bogging cuts or long high RPM cuts can wear the brushes faster
     
  6. Justin Shaner

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    Using 1/4" up cut bit to go 6mm DOC at 2032 mm/min with RPM on 3 on the Router11 router.

    The surfacing bit is a 1-1/2" spoil board surfacing bit cutting .5mm DOC at 2032 mm/min with RPM on 2.

    The router only has less than 10 hours on it.
     
  7. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Then yes, best leave it to the store team to resolve, they are back online Monday
     
  8. Justin Shaner

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    Thanks Peter!

    Do you think there us any issue with the speeds, feeds, and DOC that I had listed in prior message that might be harmful to the router at all?

    The router didn't seem to struggle or make any weird noises when running prior to my issue yesterday.
     
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    "the router only stops when the dust collection hose is up against the router"
    Maybe have some power issue, how are you powering/controlling the router? did you try another power source/outlet?
    For static it's a good idea to earth ground the chassis to allow static to dissipate.
    Gary
     
  10. Peter Van Der Walt

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    No, was just making sure it wasn't a 6mm DOC with a Surfacing bit (that would be a bit much)
     
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    My machine is the fully loaded option right from openbuilds, with no modifications. Machine is run with black box which goes into the supplied power source which is then plugged into a dedicated 20 amp outlet along with the router.

    I think I just confirmed it is a router issue and not a static issue because I just checked the brushes, turned the router back on. While in place with no movement or dust collection, the router ran for about 30 seconds and then locked back up.

    Hopefully the support team can get me a new router asap so I don't have any further down production time.
     
  12. Justin Shaner

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    Peter,

    The support team was great and got me a new router within a week! I've had my new router on for 10 days now and with less than 15 run hours again, the new router seized up. I already contacted support but wanted to come back here and see if anyone can provide any insight on what could be causing this issue.

    Below are the programs I ran with the new router. The router was set to 3 on the spindle speed for every program.

    Surfacing program - 35 minute run time. Using 1-1/2" surfacing bit taking .5 mm DOC of mdf in 1 pass at 80 ipm. I ran this 2 times.

    Corn hole board tops - 8 minute run time. Using 1/4" up cut bit taking 6.3 mm DOC per pass on 3/4" birch plywood at 80 ipm. I ran this 8 times

    Corn hole board frames - 2 hr run time. Using 1/4" compression bit taking max 6.3 mm DOC per pass on 3/4" plywood at 80 ipm. I ran this 5 times.

    It was the corn hole board frames program that it seized up on this time after about 1 hr 50 minutes of run time.

    Is the Router11 too small to handle the load I am putting on it? Any recommendations to eliminate this issue that I've had within 2 weeks now?
     
  13. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Best to work with the support team on this one. They will be better able to assist
     

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