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Discussion in 'Control Software' started by Mark Carew, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Woodtick

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    Thanks for the follow up and help, I don’t mean to hi jack this thread. I’ll keep searching and working on it and start a new thread when I have more questions. I like the Control interface and look forward to using it once I get over this bump in the road.
     
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  2. Lloyd Downunder

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    Found it , 2 wires back to front. all good now, lov the calc bit , so easy.
    thanks Guys
    Lloyd
     
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  3. Lloyd Downunder

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    Thanks David, once i corrected the wiring all is good, and now running. aint that wizard great!

    Lloyd
     
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  4. Lloyd Downunder

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    now that i have a machine that works, i now have to learn the CAD program, are the any tutorials?
    as i got some errors in a couple of codes?? that i made before using Marlin, that's a dead Fish now.
    Have down Scaled it, Ha,Ha?!
    Lloyd
     
  5. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Start off easy. DXF R12 Polyline format exported from any CAD software, into cam.openbuilds.com

    Checkout

     
  6. Lloyd Downunder

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    Gyday Pete
    have viewed the tutorial, have yet to do it.

    as i have two B/Boxes , one for each machine, and one controller /computer (Yours) work well. lov that wizard.
    I have to reconfigure each machine as i want to use?? each are different in drive and bed size.etc.
    Therefore , i suggest that in the ,Pick a machine List (all are yours) that under Custom Machine, that we the user can , name their machine and save the Required data , instead of having to redo everything again. does that make any sense.
    Also setting the size of the job wanted would be very helpful, before sending the G-Code. as other Prog do! It's like the Job piecr is now smaller/Bigger than the original cam G-code.

    Lloyd
     
  7. Peter Van Der Walt

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    The wizard just helps you do the config
    (instead of typing $-commands)

    Refer to gnea/grbl - Once saved to firmware its there forever

    OpenBuildsCONTROL is a "zero config needed" application - so the 3d viewer sets itself to the size of the gcode. If you load small job, it zooms to that, load a big job, and it scales up to match. etc
     
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  8. HCS-II

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    Any chance you could add the OX machines configurations in the model picklists of OpenBuilds CONTROL and CAM softwares?
     
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  9. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Not at this time, as they really don't have much of a standard anymore, years of of different versions, forks, etc. Also, its not being sold as a kit, the predefined profiles are there to ease life for people buying kits we have now.

    Of course its so simple you dont need a profile:

    Option 1) use literally any of the profiles as a starting point, scroll down, use the Calculators to set Steps per mm. Spend 10 mins testing and tweaking. Done

    Option 2) copy paste the $=?? Settings from someones Ox settings into the Serial Terminal
     
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  10. eric weatherman

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    Hello I am new to the group and just purchased the Lead CNC machine. Can anyone tell me what is the best device to run the open builds controller program on? I have an iMac and an iPad...would it work with an iPad? Or what would be the best device to run with the lead system? Any guidance would be great.

    Thanks,

    Eric
     
  11. David the swarfer

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    run it on the iMac, you do need a keyboard
     
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  12. eric weatherman

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    Is there an app for the iPad? I could use the keyboard accessory...just looking for an idea to keep footprint small and my iMac is inside. Would a chrome book work?
     
  13. sharmstr

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    No app. No chromebook. There is a jog widget that you can use to control the application from your ipad (or phone), but the main app needs to run on your iMac. Also, you can't load jobs from the jog widget.

    Alternatively:

    If you have and extra screen laying around, I've been happy with this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D77W8CZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    If you want an all in one solution, the guy who codes Control uses this: PiPO X10 TV Box 10.8 Inch Mini PC Windows 10 & Android 5.1 US Plug
     
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  14. eric weatherman

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    Thank you!
     
  15. sharmstr

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    Note: I mistakenly wrote "can load jobs" when I actually meant can't.
     
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    Gotcha, thanks!
     
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    On my way home today I was trying to figure out a good way to get a repeatable way to get Zero on a fixture I was going to make. Would it be possible to add probe X and probe Y Like how we have probe Z?
     
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    Yes. We do it with macros. I set up mine using the docs from Ooznest. The only thing you need to do is swap out all the semi colons with new lines and add G90 to a new line at the very bottom.

    Setup a XYZ Touch Probe with a CNC xPro Controller

    There are two docs at the bottom that will help you sort it out.

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  19. mrp192

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    Awesome, Well I kinda got it to work. But after it touches off I have to home again for it to goto Zero. and its off in X and Y.
    G38.2 Z-25 F100
    G91 G0 Z3
    G91 G0 X-25
    G91 G0 Z-8.2
    G38.2 X30 F100
    G91 G0 X-3
    G91 G0
    Z8.2
    G91 G0 Y-25
    G91 G0 X25
    G91 G0 Z-8.2
    G38.2 Y30 F100
    G91 G0 Y-3
    G91 G0 Z8.2
    G10 P0 L20 X34.236 Y-15.628 Z8.48
     
  20. sharmstr

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    One other thing I forgot. Add G90 to a new line at the bottom.

    "But after it touches off I have to home again for it to goto Zero" I dont understand what you mean. Are you saying that you want the tool to move to Work 0 after the probe finishes? If so, add it on a new line after G90.
     
  21. Alex Chambers

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    If it's off in X and Y did you change the offsets in the G10 line to match your probe and bit dimensions?
    Alex.
     
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    If I click goto work Zero it will not move until I home all the axis.
     
  23. sharmstr

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    Hmmm. Not sure why that would be. OB Control issues a G21 G90 to start the move so even missing the G90 at the end of your code should be ok.

    What does the serial console say?
     
  24. mrp192

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    G90 did fix it. Now I just need to mess with the X offset. It is like 25mm away from where it should be.
     
  25. sharmstr

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    Since we are straying from an OB Control convo, lets take this to a new thread or to DM.

    Edit. I see you changed the X and Y movements to 25mm instead of 50mm. But it doesnt look like you accounted for that in your G10 line.
     
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  26. Jeepguy42

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    I've searched the forum and google and didn't see this asked, Is there a way in GRBL or the in Open Build CONTROL to specify that the Y axis is actually Z and the Z axis is actually Y. This way the gcode it generates just switches the vaules so that when its looking for a Y move is uses the Strpper plugged into the Z Port on the board?

    I'm converting an old 3D printer into a Laser cutter and am looking at getting a GRBL board that has a X/Y1/Y2/and Z port but the printer has 2 Stepper on Z and only one on X and Y? I don't think I'd need to change Z very often but it would be useful when trying to engrave item by raising the Z axis to focus distance+material height.
     
  27. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Get a BlackBox it supports what you want to do out of the box
     
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    Hi, Does the ACEPC work well with Fusion 360?
     
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    Need some help on homing w/ BlackBox and Control, I have 3DP background w/ a bit of CNC on an (Bantan) Othermill. I know GRBL Gcode similar but not the same and reading on this issue I understand the machine vs workspace coordinates for cnc. However I cant find a well put together guide on this. OB tutorials and docs have not been sufficient yet.

    Issue: Control finds Home is in middle or machine, I issue G28 X0 expecting to home to the limit switch but it only home back to the middle, Im aware of a setting for unsafe homing (continuing into neg space) but this doesnt seem right.

    Im sure Im just not getting wrong the GRBL codes and procedures to A) Home to Switches for Machine, B) Set Workspace Home or some variation thereof, but I could really use some CNC/OpenBuildControl/GRBL noob pointers here as to what Im missing.

    My expectation is that once I turn on my machine (much like a 3DP) 0,0,0 is init'd to the current tool location and the very next thing you want to do is home to the switches/probe.
    I for the life of me cant figure that out in OpenControl (I wasnt hitting the Home ALL button at the top as one limit switch was not connected, but I expected something like a G28 X0 would work but it does not go to switch.

    Im on Sphinx 55 and I have set firmware to switches enabled, saved, reset etc.

    Any help appreciated as I cant move forward w/o this corrected.
     

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