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Discussion in 'Controller Boards' started by Andy H, May 30, 2022.

  1. Andy H

    Andy H New
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    Hi All
    I hope you guys can help me?!
    I'm just about to re-commission my OX that has been in storage for the last 4 years, and want to use the latest thinking on controller boards that is best suited to my set-up.
    The set-up is as follows:
    • Desktop PC running XP with fully licensed Mach 3, utilising LPT Printer port to output to controller board
    • Motors
      • X = NEMA 23
      • Y= 2 x NEMA 23
      • Z= NEMA 17
    I'm curious about the Arduino solutions - just not yet figured out how that integrates with Mach3 etc (if it does at all?)... or would the 'Black box' be the best solution?
    I have a couple of Raspberry Pis in my workshop ... can they be used like an arduino?
    Any advice is much welcomed!
    Andy H
     
  2. Gary Caruso

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    Hi Andy if you go anything Arduino you won't need Mach3, it will be running GRBL (this includes the Blackbox).
    If you want to keep using Mach3 then you would need a Mach compatible board.
    Negative on the Pi as arduino substitute.
    Cheers
    Gary
     
  3. Andy H

    Andy H New
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    Thanks Gary
    So, if I go Arduino, I bin the PC and just use a monitor etc as the interface?
    Does the Arduino software have the same level of functionality as Mach 3?
     
  4. Gary Caruso

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    To use GRBL you need a g-code sender (such as Opencontrol or UGS) to send to GRBL running on the arduino. This is typically a PC or the Openbuilds Interface.

    Check the GRBL Wiki for all the grbl info.

    Workflow looks like this (for many people, this is simplified for clarity);
    1) Design - draw something, can be just about anything inkscape, NanoCad, sketchup, Fusion360...
    2) CAM - takes the drawing and converts it into G-Code, post processers create G-code made for either grbl, OpenCam is one way to do this( I use NanoCAD 5 and Estlcam, which is another whole thread)
    3) Control - this is a program on a PC or Mac that sends the G-code to the Arduino or Blackbox, also in the interface for homing and jogging the machine for setup.
    that's basically it..
    Openbuilds has a bunch of setup and first cut videos that could be very helpful to wrap your head around it.
    Cheers
    Gary
     
  5. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    Grab a BlackBox (see https://docs.openbuilds.com/blackbox) and run it off USB off any PC or Mac (Win 7,8,10,11,Linux,MacOs) using our free software OpenBuildsCONTROL (see docs:software:openbuilds-control [OpenBuilds Documentation])

    CONTROL basically equates to Mach, and BlackBox basically equates to LPT port + breakout + drivers + wiring + pain and suffering - instead all in one plug and play "box" - the easy and modern way


    Modern Software is explained in docs:software:overview [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    Other cool accessories include Interface (optional extra so you don't even need a PC if you don't want to) see https://docs.openbuilds.com/interface and our Probe (see https://docs.openbuilds.com/xyzprobe)
     
  6. Andy H

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    Thanks Gary. I’m ok with the methodology … if been running my current machine for 3 years using Aspire and Mach 3 before mothballing it. Just want to know the best and latest controller setup.
     
  7. Peter Van Der Walt

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    You can still use Aspire with BlackBox: docs:software:vectric [OpenBuilds Documentation]
     
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