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Connecting BlackBox to 80watt CO2 laser PSU

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  1. Aaronxyzee

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    Hi

    I am trying to convert a knackered Lasersaur to a Blackbox controller. I've got movement pretty much sorted, but I need to connect up the laser power supply. The PSU has terminals for a mains power supply and 5 other terminals marked 5v, IN, G, WP and TL. Can anyone suggest what I do with these. Ideally I would like the laser to fire only when the chiller is on and the door is closed. I have two, two core wires coming from a door interlock and the chiller.

    Thanks for any assistance

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    Gnd on BlackBox Toolhead, to G
    Pwm on BlackBox Toolhead to TH
    Wire IN to 5V or via a Potentiometer for override control
    WP= water protection = wire flow sensor or chiller so it Grounds when liquid cooling is OK
     
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    Thanks for getting back to me, but I'm still not sure what to do with all the wires. Could you take a look at the diagram I have drawn and attached and run through connecting it wire by wire, please?
    Thanks again.
     

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    Is there any chance somebody could take a look at the diagram in the last post and tell me how to connect up the power supply and the chiller?
    Thanks very much
     
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    Chiller wires to Laser PSU. Google "laser psu WP wiring"

    0-10v is not 5v. It is 0-10v as labelled. See docs:blackbox:connect-vfd [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    You said
    And reference
     
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    I am but a simple bloke, but please can you let me know if the wiring in the attached diagram is correct.
    a straight yes/no will do.
    Thanks
    Aaron
     

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    Looks better. Just check if your chiller's pinout is sensitive to which wire is GND and which is the signal, and then don't reverse them by accident. But I think you had that figured out for the Lasersaur too?
     
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    Hi Peter
    I am finally making progress. Thanks for all your help. There is one more issue I would like to solve. I want to be able to run the boundaries of a laser job with the machine door open so I can position the work piece accurately, obviously without the laser firing. Is there any way to connect the laser PSU so I I can run the steppers with the door open?
    Thanks again
    Aaron
     
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    As a safety measure movement is also halted by the door input. One option may be a "door override" switch, wire it so it disconnects the switch when you hold down a button, or something like that, so Grbl thinks the door is still closed
     
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    Thanks for that.
    What would happen if I wired the door to the laser psu at the same connections as the chiller?
     
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    Possible, yes.
     
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    That's good
    But I'm not sure sure how to do this. I have tried making a circuit from the door interlock to the WP and ground on the laser PSU via the door plug on the black box, but it didn't work.
    Can I make a circuit from 5v on laser PSU to the door interlock back to the WP on the laser PSU.
    Thanks
     
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    Depends on whether the chiller has smarts or not. If it does you may need to build out a logic gate (or just run with the door closed? Since Grbl makes setting zero much easier than the old lasersaur software, close the lid, jog to origin, setzero, run a check size, if you need to tweak, jog some slight bit more, rezero, recheck with check size.)
     
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    I have attached a diagram of the method I have used to connected the Laser PSU to the BlackBox in case someone else has the same problem.
    Use at you own risk
    Thanks for every bodies help
    Aaron
     

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